r/Koji • u/foil_totodile • 1d ago
r/Koji • u/Poppies89 • Sep 14 '24
Getting Started: My Basic Guide
galleryGetting started with koji can be really intimidating. At least it was to me. I love fermentation, and koji has crept into my mind slowly over time. I became especially intrigued with the thought of making my own soy sauce, so down the rabbit hole I went.
Since I've started I've grown koji on long grain rice, jasmine rice, basmati rice, barley, farro, Minnesota wild rice, and soybeans & wheat. I've played with A. oryzae, sojae, and luchensis. I've made various types of shoyu/shio koji, koji butter, koji cured egg yolks, mirin, amazake, regular shoyu, black soybean shoyu, miso, peaso, and blackened koji. I'm working on another miso, peaso, and black soybean miso. I would say I'm an advanced newbie to koji, so y'all can probably take this with a grain if salt if you want, but here's for anyone who is still with me.
My first concern was setting up an incubation chamber, but the more research I did, the more I realized this DIDN'T need to be anything high tech, or require a huge monetary investment. I wanted to post some details of my setup, some basic instructions, and tips and tricks I've come across and figured out. I also post links to some products at the bottom.
The basic requirements of your fermentation chamber will be retaining heat and humidity.
Simple and cheap option for retaining heat and humidity? Coolers. Got an old cooler around? Don't use it often? Use it for koji. Don't have one? Buy one, or buy a Styrofoam cooler. I bought my foam cooler from Wal-Mart, they were $19. I actually bought 4 of them, but when I'm not using them for koji I can use them to store some of my fermentation stuff. You can also use things like old mini-fridges, chest freezers, anything that is insulated. The better insulated, the better it'll hold in the heat and the less you'll have to rely on your heating element.
This brings me to my next point, heat. I personally use a seedling heating mat connected to a temp controller unit. Many of people use Inkbird controllers and reptile heat mats. I linked mine down below, it's by Luxbird, and it includes 2 heat mats plus the probes and controller for less than $50 USD as of Sept. 2024. They work well and it controls each heat mat independently. You can set a max temp, min temp, and set alarms in case the temperature gets too high or too low.
Humidity is the next part. A lot of people do buy humidifiers to help keep humidity up in their chambers, but I find the foam cooler and a few tricks keep humidity up just fine.
First, make sure your substrate is well hydrated (without being too wet, koji will drown and not grow if things are too wet). This will provide a lot of ambient humidity for the koji. Second, wrap your koji in damp towels or cheesecloth. Don't leave the cloth dripping wet, wring it out. Again, koji can drown. Third, if you find your humidity is lower than you'd like, spritz the chamber with water or consider leaving a container of water on the bottom on top of the heater. I use a basic temp/humidity sensor linked below to monitor. I try to keep my koji at 85-90% ambient humidity the first 24 hours. After that point (when I have noticeable growth) I let humidity fall to the least of my concerns, whereas controlling heat becomes the top priority 24+ hours in. Koji can and will heat itself to death. This setup isn't high tech so you'll want to plan your 24+ hours to be something where you can easily monitor temperatures and help the koji cool down if needed.
What to place your koji in can be the next question. I see a lot of people using perforated half hotel pans. These are a great option and will help your koji breathe as it grows. Koji needs oxygen like we do. Once I discovered that I liked koji, I decided to invest in some cedar trays. I linked the shop I used down below, they made me some custom 17"x12"x3" cedar trays, and I'm wildly happy with them. They're not fancy or artistic, but they're exactly what I asked for, they work perfectly for koji, and they're solidly built. They were very reasonably priced. Contact the owner for customized sizes, he's great! I love my cedar trays because they're easy to use, easy to clean, they help the koji breathe, and it's an homage to traditional koji methods. I keep my trays elevated off of the heat mat with simple cooling racks that I have at home.
Once you have your chamber, heat, humidity, and trays figured out, the next question is spores. There are a lot of spore options out there, along with places to purchase (depending where you live). I recommend fermentationculture.eu. I have personally bought soy sauce koji spores from them, and A. sojae spores.
Finally, you need your medium. Are you trying plain long grain rice? Pearled barley? Soybeans? Farro? Quinoa? Pinto beans? Black eye peas? Figure out what you want to do and go from there.
I'm including some simple instructions below for both my normal rice koji, which can be adapted to barley koji, the steps I follow for shoyu koji (soybeans and wheat for shoyu), a recipe for mirin, another easy koji product, and basic shio and shoyu koji.
RICE KOJI
Ingredients: Long grain rice, the amount is up to you and your trays, steamer, and needs (if using barley, use pearled barley) White koji spores
Steps 1. Rinse long grain rice well to remove powdered starch from the grains. If you do not do this your rice may clump up. The koji cannot grow into big clumps of rice well. 2. Soak rice in cold water until the grains can be split by a fingernail, this is typically 3-4 hours for me. Might be overnight. 4. Rinse rice again. You do not want clumps! 4.5 (Optional) Lay rice out in an even layer on a pan and dry 1-2 hours, stirring once or twice to help all the rice dry a bit. I am lazy and do not do this, but some people do. It helps with clumps. 5. Steam rice in your preferred method until al dente. You do not want the rice as soft as you would for eating, it still needs to have a bite. This might take some practice. The grain needs to be wet and soft enough for the koji to be able to penetrate it, not not wet enough that it clumps and the koji cant penetrate it without drowning. Mix rice throughout steaming to make sure it cooks evenly and that you maintain a grainy texture. You do not want clumps. This may take an hour or two, depending on the amount of rice you're steaming and your method. 6. Put rice in a large bowl to cool to at least 30°C/86°F. 7. Inoculate rice with spores per directions on spores (the spores will give you directions for dilution and how many g/kg of spore/substrate you need to inoculate, example 1g spore per 1000kg substrate). Mix very well. It helps to dilute and dust the spores in small increments, mixing well between dustings. 8. Spread a damp towel or cheesecloth in your koji tray, and spread rice in an even layer (you can leave it in a pile to do it a more traditional way). You do not want koji more than 1-2" thick in your tray when spread out evenly. Thinner layers are easier to keep cool. 9. Put a thermometer probe in the middle of your koji, cover with another damp cloth, and put in your incubation chamber. Set your controller to no more than 32°C/89°F. Aim to keep your koji between 27°C/80°F and 32°C/89°F. Koji can and will heat itself to death later in its growth (temps greater than 45°C/113°F). I tend to set my temp controller to come on at 27°C/82°F, and go off at 29°C/85°F. During this time you want to keep humidity high, like 80-90%. Spritz as needed. 10. Check koji after 24 hours and mix. If you have made your koji into a mound, spread it evenly in your koji tray now. Your koji will start to generate much of its own heat at this point. Cover, and monitor temperatures. If it starts getting too hot, an easy way to bring temperature down is to take the koji out of the cooler and place it on a solid, uninsulated surface like a counter. You can also place ice packs under the tray in the cooler to help maintain a cooler temperature. Humidity is less important at this point as you want the koji to grow into the substrate looking for moisture. Barley koji heats up quicker and hotter than rice koji! 11. Let the koji grow for up to 48 hours. Your koji is done once it is a thick, fuzzy white mix of substrate and mycelium. Try to get it just before it sporulates to maximize enzyme production. 12. Put the koji in the refrigerator to stop the growth. 13. Enjoy! Use koji as desired.
BASIC SHOYU Ingredients 1000g dry soybeans 1000g soft white wheat berries 2000g water 720g sea salt
Steps 1. Rinse and pick through soybeans, then soak in cool water overnight. 2. Drain and rinse soybeans. Place in large pot and cover with water. Set on stove to boil, topping with water as needed. Boil soybeans for 4-6 hours, until soft enough to mash between your fingers. Reserve 1/2 cup of soybean water. Drain soybeans, place in large bowl, and cool. 3. Toast wheat berries. I toast them in a pan on the stovetop, some toast it in the oven. The choice is yours. I feel I have more control on the stove. 4. Crack the toasted wheat berries. I place them in a food processor or blender until roughly cracked. You do not need it to be a fine powder. 5. Combine soybeans, cracked wheat berries, and 1/2 cup soybean water. Mix well. Allow to cool to at least 30°C/86°F. 6. Inoculate rice with spores per directions on spores (the spores will give you directions for dilution and how many g/kg of spore/substrate you need to inoculate). Mix very well. 7. Spread damp towel or cheesecloth on your koji tray, and spread koji in your tray. You do not want your koji more than 1-2" thick in your tray. Thinner layers are easier to keep cool. 8. Add thermometer probe to the middle of your koji, and incubate for 24 hours in your chamber. Aim to keep your koji between 27°C/80°F and 32°C/89°F. Koji can and will heat itself to death later in it's growth (45°C/113°F). I tend to set my temp controller to come on at 27°C/82°F, and go off at 29°C/85°F. During this time you want to keep humidity high, like 80-90% 9. After 24 hours mix your koji. At this point your koji will start to heat up significantly. You can reduce the heat in your koji by forming rows in your mix, mixing more frequently, placing your tray on a non insulated surface, and/or adding ice packs if necessary. Soybean/wheat mix koji heats up faster than plain rice or barley koji! You need to control humidity less at this point. The koji will begin seeking moisture from inside the grain and soybeans. 10. Allow your koji to grow 48-96 hours. Try to pull before there is too much sporulation, this can cause unwanted flavors. Some sporulation is fine. I find that A. sojae sporulates faster than A. oryzae. Your koji is done when the substrate is covered in a thick layer of white fluffy mycelium. Place koji in the fridge to stop growth. 11. Mix 2000g of water with 720g sea salt in a large jar until all the salt is dissolved. 12. Mix in koji mix, stirring well. 13. Cover well, and mix well every day for a month. Then mix every other day for a month, then move onto every third day for a month, and then move onto weekly for the remainder of the time. 14. Allow to process for at least 6 months. 12-18 months is better. Strain and filter the moromi (soybean/wheat mash) from the soy sauce. 15. Bottle and enjoy.
Mirin Ingredients 500g COOKED short grain/glutinous/sweet rice. 500g koji 1000g shochu (or vodka, or any other neutral tasting spirit 25-40% ABV/50-80 proof)
Steps 1. Cook glutinous rice, weigh out 500g of cooked rice. You do NOT have to steam the rice. 2. Combine 500g of cooked glutinous rice with 500g of prepared koji into large jar. Mix well. 3. Add in 1000g of shochu. Mix well. 4. Allow to age at least 6 months. 12+ months is better. 5. Strain off mirin from mirin lees (leftover rice pulp). 6. Bottle and enjoy.
Do not throw out the moromi or mirin lees! You can also use these like you do shio koji for marinating things like vegetables and meat. Koji, the gift that keeps on giving.
Shio Koji
Ingredients 500g koji 500g water 100g sea salt
Steps 1. Add salt to water, stir until dissolved. 2. Stir daily on the counter for 10-14 days. Taste the shio koji daily after stirring. Stop when it tastes good to you. 3. Put ship koji in the fridge. Use as a marinade or ingredient. *you can use a range of salt. I make it 10% salt for my purposes. You can try 5% if you want.
Shoyu Koji
Ingredients 500g koji 500g soy sauce
Steps 1. Combine ingredients, stir well. 2. Allow to sit on the counter for 10-14 days, stirring daily. Taste daily and stop when it tastes good to you. 3. Put in the refrigerator when it is done. Use as a marinade or ingredient.
-The basic shoyu ratio is 1:1:2 dry soybeans:wheat:water.
-Mirin is 1:1:2 cooked glutinous rice:koji:shochu.
-Shio Koji is 1:1 water:koji, plus about 10% salt.
-Shoyu Koji is 1:1 soy sauce:grain. Soy sauce has sufficient salt in it already.
-A. sojae sporulates green -A. oryzae sporulates yellow -A. luchensis sporulates black
NOTES -A. oryzae will die when temps are below approximately 24°C/76°F, and when temps are above 45°C/113°F. -Higher temperatures produce more amylases and lower temperatures produce more proteases. -Higher temperatures also prompt the koji to sporulate sooner, reducing enzyme production.
LINK LIST
Styrofoam Cooler: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lifoam-48-Can-Huskee-Envirocooler-Foam-45-Qt-Cooler-White/485438903
Heating, Luxbird system: https://a.co/d/6xp4Gv4
Temp and humidity sensors: https://a.co/d/5vngjiV
Cedar Trays: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1778523248/solid-bottom-cedar-tray
r/Koji • u/fissionc • Mar 02 '21
r/Koji Discord Chat
Can't get enough koji? Many r/Koji members are swapping ideas over on the koji Discord chat and everyone is welcome to join: https://discord.gg/FQ9f5NKrBa
r/Koji • u/WildVeganFlower • 3d ago
Buckwheat koji with barley spores- why isn’t it matting?
galleryThis is my first time making koji with buckwheat and thought I would use my barley koji spores for this (a oryzae).
I’m fermenting it in my instant pot on the lowest fermentation setting and it’s getting to be about 90f
Last night when it was at 24 hours some matting was starting and I hand mixed it to help it cool off.
Today it smells right, nice and sweet.
But absolutely not matting at all.
Is this an issue? I was planning on using this in miso but I worry the koji might have gotten too hot and killed?
But it does smell and taste right
r/Koji • u/ZealousidealExtent91 • 3d ago
GerstenKoji zu warm und feucht
imageHi,
I started a Barkey Koji. Looked really good after 24h (moldy white cover) temperature was high though (>40 °C and also very moist >85%). After mixing i necer got the temp down and now (72h later) i am not sure if i can use it.
It smells okay. The non covered grains are quite wet and mushy. Any opinions?
r/Koji • u/Mulberry_Pitch • 5d ago
Best equipment for making Amazake (rice cooker / sous vide / yoghurt maker)
Hello all,
I love Amazake and am very excited to start making it myself. However, I've seen some conflicting advice on what equipment to use for the actual fermentation of Amazake: initially I thought a rice cooker would be sufficient.
However, as the temperature has to be kept in such a narrow bound (50-60C) that actually seems beyond the reach of the 'keep warm' setting of most rice cookers available in my region. As I'm not confident in rigging up a thermometer setup, I have been considering a sous-vide or a Japanese yoghurt-maker, but I'm feeling a bit at sea with all the possible choices.
Any advice very welcome, & thank you in advance!
Edit: thank you all for your help, I'll have a go and hopefully post the successful results here in a month or so's time!!
r/Koji • u/xoxo_tacos • 5d ago
Various weird misos + jangs I made (green spirulina, blue spirulina, cocoa)
galleryI posted on here not too long ago wondering about the feasibility of a spirulina-based gochujang, which I've now made along with several misos! I didn't write down the weights of all the ingredients I used for each one (but should have), but I'll give approximate measures for everything.
Green spirulina miso - 120 g green spirulina powder, 120 g of koji rice, about 200 ml (probably a bit more) of water, and 5% salt.
Blue spirulina miso -100 g blue spirulina powder, 100 g koji rice, about 200 ml of water, and 8% salt.
---Note: 200 ml was wayyyyyy too much. I made the dumb assumption I could use about the same amount as the green spirulina—the final consistency was like pancake batter. Since the surplus water would make nutrients more available because it's in solution (source: chapter on amino sauces in Koji Alchemy) I thought is should up the salt content to 8% so microbial growth is more controlled. I didn't want to increase it too much though because I feel like the flavour profile of the blue spirulina would be less suited for a red-miso style robustness. (Hopefully it turns out okay because blue spirulina is expensive T^T)
Cocoa powder miso - 140g dutch processed cocoa powder, 70g koji rice, 200ml-ish water, and 10% salt. (I made this one on a whim because I still had some koji rice left over).
Green spirulina-jang - I followed this recipe and used 120g green spirulina, 63g of mejugaru, 507g worth of the reduced barley malt water + glutinous rice flour liquid, and 10% salt.
I didn't get any guidance on my original post 😅but I decided on substituting the gochugaru with the spirulina 1:1. My original concern was whether the barley-rice flour mixture would make growth too easy without being additionally inhibited by the antimicrobial properties in the chilli powder (gochugaru). But I realised I was overthinking it because miso already has the starch component inherent in it since the koji mould grows on rice.
They all seem to be coming along nicely but has only been a week so hopefully it stays that way lol. It is very strange and interesting to me that the 'tamari' of the green spirulina is blue? I definitely didn't cross contaminate the blue and green spirulinas or anything so idk what that's about. Also, I took some pictures of the two spirulina misos while shining a super bright torch on them an they both seem to be producing something that reflects magenta (hence why the green spirulina appears mostly brown) which is pretty cool.
I'll update again once they're done or if anything interesting happens.
r/Koji • u/sheepeck • 5d ago
Doburoku
imageAnother testing batch. Second day after puting yeast into the mash. Rice grains are almost melted away, almost like a mud. Very nice mild effervescent, taste is still quite sweet from the mother mash. I’ll give it one, maybe two more days and then pasteurise it slightly. With all the tasting done every few hours I may not have enough for filtration step. 😅
Salt outside my Shoyu clay vessel
imageI have a large barrel of yellow split pea shoyu fermenting in a clay vessel, and I’ve now noticed salt deposits forming on the outside. I assume this is because clay isn’t completely watertight, and that the salt water is slowly seeping through the clay, evaporating on the outside, and leaving the salt behind.
What I’m wondering is: what exactly is actually passing through the clay wall, and in what proportions? Do I need to be concerned about the salt-to-water ratio changing inside the vessel? Should I add salt water to compensate and maintain the liquid-to-pea/wheat ratio?
I’d be interested to understand how significant this effect is and whether I need to take any action to maintain the fermentation properly.
r/Koji • u/Certain-Astronomer64 • 6d ago
Anyone played around with lacto-fermented koji water?
I’m thinking of steeping fresh rice koji in water, straining it, then using that liquid as the base for a lacto ferment. Curious whether the koji gives it something interesting beyond sweetness and umami, or whether the acidity just takes over.
r/Koji • u/dafiel327 • 6d ago
Green koji
videoHi, I am Daniel from Colombia I make koji with a sake homebrew starter, koji kin.
And i have a question, in the rice grow a green koji and I dont now is normal,
r/Koji • u/carlosfeel • 7d ago
Dosage of koji spore aspergillus sojae
galleryI need help to use this spores, I have experience making koji but sometimes I find difficult that when using a new type of spore from a different producer the problem is to know the correct dosage of the spore itself, hishiroku has been the main company I use to make my ferments another strain of them use 1gr of spore for 1000gr of cooked substrate, mimiferments has certain strains they make that use 0.15gr for 1000gr of substrate
My question is this: how much from this strain of aspergillus sojae I need to incubate certain amount of substrate, from what I translated it says with 100gr of spores I can make 360liters of sauce but that’s doesn’t give me a correct dosage you know, any help would be really helpful thanks!!!!
r/Koji • u/VegetableGlad8840 • 9d ago
Koji brisket
So today I slathered four full briskets with Shio Koji. They'll go on the smoker on Friday. We'll see how it works!
r/Koji • u/sn_axol_otl • 9d ago
Pickled Watermelon Rind & Labneh with Cured Duck Egg Yolk
imager/Koji • u/Available-Seesaw1879 • 13d ago
Hey Koji experts! Starting a fava bean project on perforated GN trays. Saw Noma post ~2.5kg/tray on IG, which is our target too. How long do you soak, which spore strain do you use, and how do you hit 2.5kg+ without overheating? Any tips welcome!
imager/Koji • u/Toktoklab • 15d ago
Miso + spirulina
imageFunny how spirulina built up a kind of film on the surface ! I love the colour as well.
r/Koji • u/xoxo_tacos • 15d ago
Spirulina gochujang feasibility
I'm planning on making some spirulina (both blue and green) miso/amino paste inspired by this video: [https://youtu.be/dl0aeSqi6Jw\](https://youtu.be/dl0aeSqi6Jw)
and by extension, this one too: [https://youtu.be/qADkUWJFIAI\](https://youtu.be/qADkUWJFIAI)
I've also got some mejugaru which i planned to make some gochujang with sometime and I thought "why not try a gochujang format as well!". But looking at a couple gochujang recipes rapidly made me wonder how feasible this is. For clarity, what I had imagined was a "spirulina-jang" where the spirulina powder would replace the gochugaru. I'm fairly new to all this but considering the amount of sugars that will be introduced from the malt+rice flour mixture, I'm not sure whether the right bacteria/moulds/fungi would be cultivated if there wasn't a chili component (chilies have antibacterial properties and can thus control growth iirc). I suppose I could add more salt and perhaps the flavour profile could cope due to the sweetness but idk...
I guess a second question would be: could I just use the mejugaru like koji rice, mix the two together with salt and leave it at that? Ig it should work since it'd be kinda be spirulina doenjang?
Oh and maybe important FYI, since this is experimental, I'm making small batches that use 100g of spirulina (with whatever other ingredient ratios). As per the second video's advice, I'll be sealing my miso paste in a vacuum bag (so ig question three is would a vacuum bag be preferable or should I stick to a jar?)
Any advice or insights would be very much appreciated!! (:
Edit: links got dropped for some reason
r/Koji • u/Certain-Astronomer64 • 16d ago
turned my sourdough into koji, then used the bread koji to make miso — curious what you guys would do with it next
galleryI ran an experiment using sourdough bread as a koji substrate, then used that bread koji to make a bread miso.
The goal was to keep the flavour journey in one product line:
sourdough → koji → miso
It kept some of the roasted, fermented bread character, while the koji added sweetness and strong enzymatic activity.
I’m mainly interested in using it as a base for things like sauces, glazes, broths, or fish sauce-style ferments.
Curious if anyone here has played with bread koji or bread miso, and what applications you found most interesting.
r/Koji • u/Certain-Astronomer64 • 16d ago
Sushi rice Koji
imageThis batch of sushi rice koji came out so ridiculously clean and dense that at this point I’m not sure if I’m fermenting rice or manufacturing building materials.
Full white coverage, grains completely knitted together, sweet/fruity aroma and a cake strong enough to hold in one piece.
There’s something extremely satisfying about breaking open a perfect block like this after babysitting rice for two days.
Now the dangerous part: deciding what to sacrifice it to next — amazake, shio koji, miso, garum… or something completely stupid?
Koji people: what would you make with this batch?
r/Koji • u/Mindless_Praline_ • 17d ago
My first koji
galleryI made my first rice koji and miso (shiro and regular). I’m very happy with the results and it’s so fun. I fell in love with it immediately, koji is so tasty and smells amazing 😫 I’m going to make it once again and use it in desserts this time
r/Koji • u/Over_Price_5980 • 17d ago
First time koji making
galleryHey there!
I’m trying to make my first koji but maybe I’m having some issues.
I prepare my rice (Carnaroli) washing it until the water is clear, soaking for about one hour (it increase of about 25% of moisture) and steaming it in a rice steaming cooker. In this last part I think I have some issues since some grains appear really cooked and sticky and some other appears crude, not cooked enough.
Then I used this rice inoculating my Aspergillus and this is what I got after 48h (in the first pictures the result and the second one after shuffling it).
I control the temperature during the day, from 30 degree to 34 (gradually increasing during the incubation) and lowering the moisture from 90% till 75/80%.
Any recommendations?
r/Koji • u/Competitive_Swan_755 • 19d ago
Chanterelles with Koji
I picked about 4 lbs of Chanterelles today. My rice is steaming now, getting my Koji ready. Any tips for making mushroom garum?
r/Koji • u/AcceptableShop525 • 19d ago
Koji sporulation?
galleryHad a rough two weeks involving grief and illness, didnt stir my two large batches of shio koji except for one good stir. This is the growth on top. Thoughts if this is just koji or if mold/bacteria got in? Never seen this before and it's interesting the two barrels have different tops (one on the right has the presence of green speckles) despite being the same recipe, size, and fermentation time.
Aroma of both is still floral and sweet, though the one without the green speckles smells sweeter for sure. Tasted both after scraping the top off because you have to right? Both taste great, like shio koji, although the green speckled one is slightly less sweet. To me this indicates sporulation. No sourness or bad smell or taste from either, but still want to consult others for your thoughts.
PS I have had shio koji turn green before with this same koji, just never on top. But I've never gone so long without stirring just completely dropped the ball as life got in the way. Also the slight differences could be in the amount of light they each got though they were kept at the same temperature. Thoughts appreciated, ever seen anything like this?
EDIT I understand koji is mold so asking if mold got in is kind of redundant. I meant harmful bacteria