My approach to 5-MeO-DMT and NN-DMT is probably pretty different from a lot of people’s. I’ve never used a sitter, including for breakthrough experiences. I prefer to control my environment completely and eliminate as much outside stimulation as possible.
For breakthroughs, my setup is simple: somewhere secure where I can lie down, earplugs, and an eye mask. No music, no visuals, no distractions. I want the experience to be entirely internal.
5-MeO for me is primarily about the complete breakthrough experience. NN-DMT is different because I also enjoy it at lower, non-breakthrough levels.
More than anything, these experiences have changed my perception of what reality actually is. I’m not saying they’ve given me objective proof of anything, but they’ve absolutely changed the questions I ask about consciousness, perception, and existence.
NN feels like going somewhere and exploring something completely outside ordinary reality. 5-MeO is almost the opposite. Everything disappears. There’s no “me” exploring anything anymore. What remains feels like returning to the Source, and the Source feels like everything. No separation between you, reality, consciousness, or existence itself. Just everything as one thing.
That difference is a huge part of why I find both experiences so fascinating. NN feels like seeing behind the curtain of reality, while 5-MeO feels like the curtain, the observer, and everything behind it all disappear into the same thing.
For those of you who have experienced breakthroughs with both, how would you describe the difference? Have either of them permanently changed how you think about consciousness or the nature of reality?

First want to say a thank you to internet shamans like Minty Love who have made the complicated process of getting started with vaping dmt into something much more manageable.

Throughout history some brave peeps have put themselves out there and risked personal peril in order to increase education and access to this special medicine. To them I say thank you.

Kit: Aspire Zelos M80 @ 22-25 watts. Zeus nano 2 tank with .2 ohm coil.
Juice: 600mg deems / 1.0 ml PG / .7 ml VG

Report:
10/3 Early AM: Attempt 1 with the D Juice tank: 
Started at 22 watts with a slow 4-5 second draw and airholes at half open. Almost immediately I felt the vibrating intensity and heartrate increase. Closed eyes and the subtle dancing seductive swirl geometry could be seen faintly (lights still on at this point). The words intensity and also solemnity come to mind when thinking about this experience (and this was only a peripheral dabble, wow…) solemnity - a state of dignified seriousness, gravity, or a formal, ceremonial observance of a special event.

Then turned off lights and fired up the Cura Journey Mix took another 5-6 second toke at 25 watts and laid down on the carpet with eyes closed. I remember this feeling of “here we go, better buckle up” -  What ensued was a wild journey through geometry, strange landscape views, upside down orientation, views of indescribable “items” and orientations of things that make no sense. Reminds me of LSD in that the brain is producing mind’s eye images of something that just doesn’t compute with normal perception and description. One thing that was so clear was feeling my ego trying to hang on for dear life. While experiencing this journey through time and space every once in a while I would hear the familiar narration trying to ground me with some transient and semi-desperate thought or observation about my physical state (heart beating, feet are cold, feeling fear but “you are ok”) this tells me that I was not fully ego-dissolved and also motivates me to push further albeit in a measured and respectful way. 

Things that were made clear this morning:
- The minty d juice method works and I now have a starting point (1:3 dmitiri : juice ratio plus 2x 5 second tokes at 22-25 watts with airholes half open)
- This is a powerful and deeply spiritual medicine that has been used for thousands of years (chavin culture, Pre incas, Tainos etc) I'm happy to have found it and happy to be alive today.

✅ Reposting without stash pics (sorry mods!)

👽 People often say carts are weak, but I can actually break through in 1 hit with my 1:1 cart (DMT + PG). I consistently reach what I'd describe as a "level 4" experience: complete ego dissolution, full detachment from the physical body/earthly reality, entering an autonomous dimension (hyperspace), and having direct interactions with independent, intelligent entities.

However, I can't seem to reach a solid "level 5" with it; that space beyond entity contact, experienced as absolute non-duality, pure oneness with the void or white light where subject and object dissolve completely. I’ve only ever reached that state with a glass pipe (with a lot of luck) or using changa / enhanced leaf with an MAOI through a bong in 1 or 2 big rips.

Level 4 is incredible, but for full symptom relief it isn't always enough. Because of that, I’m considering sub-ohm setups, like the Smok Vape Pen V2 kit that another Redditor suggested. Any thoughts or recommendations on this?

💨 When I say it's odorless, it's because I take a deep hit and hold it in for so long that virtually no vapor comes out on the exhale. My sense of smell isn't the sharpest anyway, but I’d love to hear your experiences with this. To me, it feels like I'm literally "eating" or drinking the vapor — it just integrates completely into my body.

⚠️ I use USP Propylene Glycol from Essential Depot (the only brand I've tried that doesn't trigger terrible 2-day-lasting headaches for me) and mix everything myself. Please don't ask for sourcing, as it's strictly against the rules of this sub.

Thanks 😄 🙏🏻 🛸

Ok so I have the sai plus + bubbler. When I first used it on wattage mode i managed to break through off two hits. Thick vapour, clean taste.

Since then I’ve tried to use it around 10 times with no success. Vapour feels light or tastes burnt, effects feel negative and visuals black/dull. Definitely not receiving the full dose. I swore it was me for ages. It was consistently not working. It’s put me off trying to use it and having to go through the shitty feeling for 10 minutes for trial and error.

Anyway Ive been using a glass bubbler bong and torch and it’s more or less failproof. It cost me 20 quid off Amazon and I love it. But I’ve spent all this money on the e vape and mods i dont just want it to sit there unused. I know this can be a very good device when it works. I just wanna know how I can get it to work consistently and deliver the breakthrough in 1 or 2 hits like the dab rig.

Almost all of the settings on here are for the smaller sai. Which I also have but it doesn’t fit the bubbler attachment so im looking for settings specifically for the SAI PLUS.

Me and a friend just smoked DMT.

We both took equally big hits from one of those vape heads with a mesh coil. He had what’s called a breakthrough and went on this whole journey through another world.

But me, who smoked before him—I just died. My heart was pounding like 3,000 beats a minute, and then everything just went black!

How!????

So i picked up some DMT carts from a trusted friend of mine, and he gave me 2 carts.
He says there is a gram in each.. but one cart has lots of crystallization happening in the liquid, while the other cart only has a few visible DMT crystal flakes kind of suspended in the liquid.

Does this have anything to do with the VG/PG ratio of the liquid used in the cart? Or is one of these carts “more potent”, than the other?

He also recommended I take a hair dryer to it to FULLY evaporate the crystals before hitting it with my pen, is this correct?

I’ve now done that about 4 times with the cart that has all the crystallization happening, then after my hit it will recrystallize again, i’m assuming because it cools down.. i just want to make sure i’m not harming the material or anything.

Also what would be the best way to reach a breakthrough?
Would it be to take a long hit, hold it in, then continue again with another same length of hit until i basically can’t anymore? Or maybe hit both carts at the same time after pre warming with the hair drier?

Any tips or help would be greatly appreciated!

Hi everyone :)

Just wanted to share some thoughts I had because I freaked out during a free solo climb and the feeling was exactly like the anxiety I had on DMT.

So I’ve used DMT probably over 100 times, in all kinds of dosages. I’ve learned to dose pretty much exactly how deep I want to go on that day. Sometimes, there would be some dmt left in my vape or I’d accidentally overshoot for the context and this feeling of “oh fuck, there is no return. This is real. This isn’t like watching a movie, it is a real experiences with real inner consequences” sometimes gets me. Just like an insane fear, really strong that basically tells me “this is it. One wrong move and you’re done”.

(Next paragraph is just the context of the climb, in case you want to skip)
Last week I went free soloing, so I climbed without a rope. I prepare a lot for these rare climbs and I only do it once I am sure I can top rope the route 100 times without ever falling or being even remotely close to falling. The interesting thing with free soloing is the mind games. Because although the risk is relatively low, the consequences are death. So I climbed up the first bit and just when I hit that height (~30ft), where returning is less safe than continuing, I started to freak out and went “oh no I’m not in the right headspace, I don’t want to be here but I need to contain the panic and continue climbing”. I figured it would be much safer than giving in and climbing down in a state of panic - something I hadn’t practiced as much as climbing up obviously. I just executed on auto-pilot and tried to bring my awareness back to my body and breath.

Already during the climb but especially after, I thought of one of my last DMT experiences and was like “wow, it is the exact same feeling. 100%”. Which is kind of obvious, because it’s my feeling.

I think what I want to say is more like: I love DMT, but it’s really intense and taking higher doses if you’re not in the right headspace or avoiding other tasks in your life can feel really really bad. So to the people asking “how can I stop the anxiety” I always think - that’s the wrong question. It’s a completely appropriate emotional response to an experience like this from an ego perspective.

And I think it’s similar to what you do in soloing. You breath, you bring your awareness to your body and release tension. And you don’t believe everything the feeling tells you. During my solo I knew that I had prepared well and that I thought everything through, so it didn’t matter to me that my fear was sending me doubts when I had already dealt with that before. I think it’s the same with DMT come ups. And with DMT, the huge plus is that wrong moves are much more forgivable.

I'm not joking, almost every single time. Is it some bodily reaction to the pre-flight fear and anxiety? A subconscious way to procrastinate?

Is this why people say "I almost shit myself" when they get scared?

Any time I see a screen on deems I instantly want to look away. The only exception was a screensaver moving over a mountain and it was the craziest prettiest looking thing, while the rest of the room looked basically normal (low dose deemz normal)
Are there any shows to watch on low dose deems? I like to chill on a few puffs for a half hour sesh or so.
If you’re going to yell at me that it’s not about watching screens, I agree with you. Just seeing if anyone has had a different experience or would recommend like a nature show or something light.

It has become more frequent that during my experience I am joining a meeting of sorts with other entities.

Recently the meeting consisted of viewing some sort of frequency signature I hold. They were surprised to see that mine has changed from my last visit.

I recently had a very far out God-realization experience a few weeks ago that I have been integrating daily. I feel very changed from that event and our meeting consisted of discussing the God frequency.

Anyway, just thought it was cool and wanted to share and maybe see if anyone is having these "meeting" experiences too.

A while back I did DMT with three friends of mine. I made this image to recreate what I remember seeing, and while working on it I noticed something about who saw what that I hadn't put together before.

The Flower of Life was everywhere. It looked like clear cellophane or a decal wrapped around everything, following the shape of the tree and the ground and the concrete in front of me. I could see it in the sky and in the air too. It felt like reality itself was made out of this pattern. Which is crazy because thats how I'd read it described before, but I thought it was an analogy or something figurative

Everything still had its normal colors and shapes. You could see right through it but the pattern was clear as day

I knew about the Flower of Life before this and was interested in it. But actually seeing it covering everything in front of me was something I never expected. This was the first and only time thats happened to me.

When I've tried explaining it people have said I have a good imagination. I get why it sounds that way but its hard to explain how clear it was. One of my friends said they could see it too.

Then there was this huge dark hooded figure sitting in the tree. This part was hard to get right in the image. It blended into the leaves and shadows but I could make out a giant "Grim Reaper" looking figure sitting there all casual with one leg hanging down, just watching us.

It didn't scare me. I didn't get any bad feeling from it at all. It seemed relaxed, like it was just hanging out observing us and letting us be. One of my friends could see it with me

There was also a small white ball in the sky. Like a golf ball or a ping pong ball way off in the distance. Only two of my friends were able to spot it with me

The part I only just put together is which friends saw each thing.

The only friend who saw the Flower of Life with me was the one who was as interested in it as I was.

The two who saw the white ball were the same two who were with me another time when we saw something similar. That time it was sunset and it was directly above us, about helicopter height. Just a white ball sitting there without moving. This might be unrelated but we saw all kinds of weird flying objects during that period of our lives and never again

And the only friend who saw the Grim Reaper with me died a couple months later.

I dont know what to make of that. It could be coincidence. The things we were already interested in or had seen together might explain some of it. I just hadn't noticed those connections until I tried recreating the scene.

Has anyone else had something like this happen? Where one friend could see what you were seeing but the others couldn't, and then it was a different friend for something else? I'd really like to hear your experiences

So I got my first dmt cart today I smoked 2/3 of it already and I wasn’t breaking through, but I figured I’d give it one more shot. I layed back and took 6 huge hits and held them in for 10-15 seconds each, when I exhaled the last one my body was warm and vibrating I then felt as if my body was levitating and my vision began flashing white and black and all I began to hear was ringing and computer sounds, then everything faded into a cartoon city and I saw clowns going about daily life and driving cars and then it faded into the devil laughing at me and I felt like he was trying to trap me with him but I broke free and I felt like all the weight on my shoulders had been lifted then I was in a wetland think of the Everglades, I saw frogs and alligators and I heard splashes in the water and birds chirping and it was so peaceful and beautiful and I felt completely at peace and I no longer feared the dmt and i felt like I was meant to be there. I slowly came back too and i was trembling and shaking then i finally realized i was back and then i thanked god for the chance to experience this.

i bought a dmt vape/cart, i used the entire fucking thing trying to get high and all it did was burn my mouth and lungs, at no point did it ever work, what in gods name did i do wrong?

Kodo pro vs uni pro, bout the kodo ots brand new the uni wolf is old it was giving to me by a freind I just cleaned ot was better for dmt carts?

Many years ago, I sought out DMT from a friend because I was going through a very rough time, a breakup that I was having difficulty getting over.

I meditated and did breathwork for a while, then inhaled the DMT vape pen for an impossibly long amount of time.

The world around me dissolved and I started to remember that I (the big I) was the one that created all of “this”.

I even created the specific scenario of me sadly looking at social media on my phone, longing for a person that I created to specifically long for, and be sad about.

Like I wanted to feel the intense sadness and heartbreak….

It was incredibly freeing, and that realization/remembrance of my true nature was the thing that shook me out of that rather sad period of my life.

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These days I still get into situations where I forget that highest truth, that I created whatever life situation I’m experiencing, and I identify too much as the “small I”, leading to self sabotage.

Whereas, when I have full trust in the universe, things seem to flow much more easily.

At times I feel a bit delusional, but I lean towards believing my mystic experience, as I experienced what others also say, it felt more real than real.

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Could you please share your experience?

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Side note 1 - That mind blowing realization was the thing that set me off on a spiritual quest to investigate that realization, which had me diving deeply and earnestly into mystic eastern religions such as Advaita Vedanta.

I was already primed for this quest after getting really into Thict Naht Hanh (I can never remember how to spell his name correctly) and Ram Dass which coincidentally happened when I was going through a super hard time during Covid.

Pain truly is a portal that can power your search for depth of meaning.

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Side note 2 - I used to think that manifesting was beneath me spiritually, but these days, I’m actually exploring and wondering about active manifestation.

If my highest self, that divine me, created this life that I live, how much of that can I actively bring into my life?

Hi I tried DMT a week after my last attempt in my last post and had an entirely different experience. I did so with the idea of trying to break through to the DMT but again I was unable to. Less out of fear but I still kind of was a lil scared. I had the perfect set up this time compared to the first time I did it. My friends apartment when i first tried it was quite dark and the whole place just looked like a typical stoner/gamer set up so I think thats why I just wasnt in the mind to completly break through that time. but today I did it in my room, cleaned up my space opened the curtains to allow light in and played some intelligent ambient DnB mixes in the background and sat infront of my window which was facing a massive green tree infront of my house with really vibrant green leaves like something out of a OLED TV showcase. Anyway i thought this was the perfect set up to breakthrough but I still felt every inch of my body resisting taking more tokes. The only thing I did differently was take much deeper inhales than I did before. I felt my brain dissolving with minimal visuals except for a few swirling patterns. I lost sense of time and self and for a while I was just a blank slate, I looked at my hands like some kind of alien and it was like i was seeing them move on their own without any input from me. it felt like I was here for a really long time and I had no capacity to take another hit because i didnt really know who I was anymore I was just experiencing the world as a new being who had never been here before. gradually I started to come down and i could phsyically feel my brain piecing my sense of self back together Gradually. I dont remember what came first but the concept of time was beamed back into my brain , then I heard my inner thoughts say the word "I" like it was such an alien concept and had just been discovered then i thought "ahh yess im me" then everything else came back i kind of dont remember but the feeling sort of felt like being born except there was no blinding hospital lights and that stupid flashbang sound affect we always see in movies showing from a new borns point of view being born. It was such a weird but calming experience I deffo want to break through next time I just dont believe Im ready. and sorry my typing and thoughts are always disjointed but being peiced back together kinda reminded me of that scene in Age Of Ultron where Jarvis welcomes Ultron into existance and hes asking what his purpose is. It felt like that minus the accessing the internet part and coming to the conclusion all humans need to die. but yeah I just wanna know if anyone has had any post breakthrough DMT sessions like this? I wanna know what you all think

ps. pls ignore my grammar

Hey! I’m new to DMT, still on the first bag I ever bought. I burned my tongue the first time I smoked. I had assumed it was the heat from my vape that did it. I added 4 inches of medical tubing to give it a chance to cool before taking the hit. It was definitely easier, but I still think it burned my tongue again (probably my lungs too). I am now thinking it’s the lye or whatever was used in the extraction. The guy I got it from doesn’t usually deal in spice, so he has no idea.

I was thinking there’s got to be a wash that can be done. I would assume something acidic to counter the base. Does that sound right? Anyone run into this issue? Can you point me towards a wash process?

So first time on DMT, hit like my life depended on it, left body and self behind, found myself in some kind of womb? for a portion of it. Anyway something was breathing through me while I was in there, it was this circular kind of breath a sort of deep humming out like hmmmmm and then on the next out it was more of a haaaaaa, but it was deep and circular and soulful and completely not me doing it. Boyfriend said it sounded like sex noises (brilliant) Anyway I cant help but want to know if there's any purpose to this kind of breathing, I've scoured youtube looking at shamanic breath work etc cant find anything similar. Maybe its nothing. But I cant help but think maybe I've been given some kind of secret breath work that does something, anyone had similar or know from my lousy description what it might be?

Wandering if dmt over time would help with aphantasia , the Inability to see pictures in your minds eye . I had one amazing break through the one and only proper encounter with dmt . Full out of body / went somewhere else . I can't remember what I saw ext. But I do remember seeing something (eyes closed , passed out . ) but not like a dream .

I am familiar with the 4 hour crockpot/vinegar pre-simmer tek... Anybody ever used an instant pot??

(Pressure cooker??) Some set and forget???

Maybe get more done in a shorter time span??

Anybody??

Into my second year of psychedelics. Grown my own shrooms, have enough weed to last a lifetime and have found a source for DMT. So I’m looking advice.

First they asked if I wanted freebase, a vape cart or a mixture to use as a tea. I went freebase as I’ve been told it’s the most potent.

I’ve a few weed vapes around (solo 3 and Gpen) but I assume these won’t work with DMT crystal. I’m based in Oz, what do I need to buy so I can enjoy my first venture?

Kodo pro vs uni pro